Keshi: “When by grace I overcome all obstacles within my heart, may everyone I know and meet also be blessed in the same way , may all obstacles in all being’s hearts be removed and healed for the healing of all inhabitants of the earth planet.
Is that just pretentious or is it proud or is it good to play with unselfish thinking paterns within ourselves ? comments please”
Myself: (some references to the thread omitted) “my (presently) closest teachers would be called impersonalist sentimentalsists in Iskcon culture. It took me years to wean my fear of these people. Ironically, there is more care for each other in such space; eg, it is one of the most sensitive and loving spaces I have experienced. Bottom line… sentimentalism is important, just that it should not be based on something that we get totally lost in, but based on truths. Now… what those truths are, are up to each of us. Sarcastic sniping is actually a form of a fear response to your openness Keshi. I honor your question/quest with full loving sentiment, at the same time acknowledging my own fear of love itself. I’d be proud to be in the airy fairy camp if it leads to more openness and loving and less cold hard logic/philosophy. Love ya bro.”
Friend: “I agree with u prabhu (friend). For I myself am a follower of Eckhart Tolle.(A New Earth)
Do u recommend any other teachers or groups that may be in Uk or Ireland. I open to these things if it is favourable for my KC too.
Ysvt”
Myself: “Hey (friend)… not sure about groups you can connect with to further your journey in the UK… I’ve been well engaged in various groups here.
I’m afraid I don’t restrict myself to seeking “Krsna Consciousness” I’ve found that limiting and dogmatic. Though this of course is my personal choice. It is a language we use in and around Iskcon [International Society for Krishna Consciousness-AKA: Hare Krishna] which really requires a lot of explaining that can become a justification or excuse and limit to my desire to expand beyond and not limit my own path. I don’t really wish to be caught in debate, but rather pursue my own growth in connecting with Divine love.
My specific path has often orbited around shamanism, a way of prayerfully connecting with any spirit, or being, be it Krsna Himself (who I have humbly found myself with during shamanic journey) to the spirit of another person or tree, or stone. This path does not have credence in labeling one person or thing or spirit as better than the other… thus the path requires humility which I often do not attain, thinking as usual that I am something special.
Then of course is the aspect of where indeed I am special, and have something unique to offer to the world, humanity and in service. Finding the balance between the two in my true self, my spirit-soul, being the goal of how I thus interact in the world. In the shamanic sense it is becoming the hollow bone, allowing the Divine will to pass through me and becoming an instrument… sound familiar?
I veer away from restriction/exclusion and dogmatic beliefs… God knows I have all of those in myself already, I don’t need others to add to it.
I found myself on a visit last summer at a camp in the UK north of Bristol and met many kind Iskcon weaned individuals and children (now adults), and disciples of Srila Prabhupada. Some had a glass of wine in one hand and beads in the other. Frankly, it was a breath of fresh air to be around the honest up front nature of those I met.
Anyway, I wish you the best on your journey, as I always have. You are a kind soul. I enjoy your jibing nature, but also acknowledge the pain and fear that is behind it. We all have it. We all come from a deep place of unforgiveness for whatever we have abused ourselves over. My journey is about noting that unforgiveness and learning to be with it and wash it through me, allowing me to grow in self awareness & love, thus removing the walls of being separate from the Divine, from Krsna’s love, from Radhe’s love.
With love brother.
Rad”
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